How Does PvP Work in Order and Chaos Online

A Win in the arena gives more points.
A Win in the arena gives more points. | Source

At a glance, most Order and Chaos players assume that PvP is a hopeless affair. It's not a surprise since the super epic players will kill you on contact. Then there is the fact that you might be called a noob, and told to get better gear.

Of course, they don't tell you how. It's actually easier than most of us realize. Let's talk about what PvP is, then we can discuss how to get epic PvP gear. It can all be done without spending your whole paycheck. Yes, it's possible, so don't let the haters make you give up hope.

To play PvP you must be level 70. To enter the arena, click the green box at the top of the screen. It is labeled Lueage, and is next to Guild.

Currently there are three PvP fields:

  • 2v2
  • 4v4
  • Battleground

Order And Chaos Battlefield And Arena

The PvP arenas. 2s, 4s and battlefield
The PvP arenas. 2s, 4s and battlefield | Source

What's q2s, q4s and qbg?

There are some phrases you will see in global chat over and over. It can almost seem like a foreign language. Here are the most common.

  • Q2s / qr2s or que 2s / que r2s - this is what a player says when they want others to play 2v2 arena. This arena is one team of two fighting another team of two. The "R" means random. With out the "R" it means they want you to pick a team in advance. A win in this arena is 100 honor points, and a lose is 20.
  • Qr4s and que 4s is the same, only there are 4 players on each team, and you get roughly double honor points per win. That is 200 a win and 40 a loss.
  • BG stands for battle ground. It's four people per team. It's a game of capture the flag. Once the flag is picked up, the bridge to your base vanishes. Someone must flip the switch, which brings the bridge back. Then the flag can be delivered home. A win is 300 honor points in battlefield.

S3 Video Guide

What Is Rank?

Rank is how you are scored against other players. Rank is only important when buying season 3 gear. Season 3 gear is also referred to as s3. I'm sure you have heard players talking about those dang S3's. They are talking about the guys and gals who have high ranking and are wearing season 3 gear.

These are the people who beat down undergeared players every time. S3 gear has more resilience and better stats. The only way to build your rank is to win in the arena. But you must have ranking to buy season three gear. This is not a catch 22 because there are other seasons resilience gear that you can get without ranking.

You need to collect previous season gear to add resilience and get experience so that you can win more often the arena. Then you can build rank and get your own S3.

Merciless Combatant Necks.
Merciless Combatant Necks. | Source

What Is PvP Gear And What Is Resilience?

PvP gear is special gear that you need to win in the arena. PvP gear has more stamina, which raises your health points. It also gives you a special stat called resilience. This stat doesn't do you any good outside of the arena. It's one of those things that got nerffed.

However, it's vital in the arena. Resilience reduces the damage you take from other players in the arena. The less damage you take, the more time you have to use your skills. This will increase your wins. Once you have enough resilience and skill, then you can begin to build your rank for S3 gear.

Dungeon gear is called Tier (1, 2, 3), but PvP gear is called Season (1 1.5, 2, 2.5 3). By obtaining Season 1.5 and above, you can add stamina and resilience so you can win in the arena.

S3 Gear At A Glance

How Do You Get PvP Gear?

Getting PvP gear is easier than it seems.

  • Earn honor points when you play in the arena.
  • You can trade these points for arena points. You get 1,500 arena points for 500 honor points.
  • Every time you cap you get 1,500 honor points. That means 4,500 arena points each time you cap.

That means you can have your first PvP epic in four days without spending money. On tabs.

Speaking of tabs:

  • If you have arena tabs, you can reset your honor and get it even sooner.
  • Every time you cap you get a chest with a reward that might have one of the many PvP tabs.
  • You can get them in the daily lotto, by winning an event or tournament, on the black market, or in the hourly chest.
  • If you want to buy them in the nick shop, for real money, you can.

When you buy PvP gear, always buy two S2 set pieces first, not including the boots. At two pieces you get a +150 resilience set bonus. Then you can add other PvP gear as needed. Keep trading honor points for arena points, or get the set pieces that drop in dungeons (2.5), until you are strong enough to build your rank. Then begin working on rank and save your honor points for your S3 gear.

Order and Chaos online PvP can be lots of fun once you begin gathering your resilience set.

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Terri 21 months ago

Hello! I would like to say that your hubpages are extremely useful and educating! Keep up the good work and good luck!

mohamed 20 months ago

What's better for pvp, merciless set or s2.5? (Healer)

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TheDragonBringer 20 months ago Author

Oh goodness. I have seen some heated debates over that. I have a healer, and I am wearing 4 s2 (merciless set), and two s3. In retrospect, I might have gone the other way. However, I started my sets before the whole 2.5 craze.

Honestly, I think the fastest way to s3 is not to waste too many points. I think 4 s2.5 at least one of those pieces being the boots, and 2 s2 make for a good set. That way you get the s2.5 set bonus and the 2 piece bonus from the s2. Just remember boots do not count in the s2 set bonus.

I would probably have done things differntly if I could go back in time and tell myself about the s2.5 set.

The beauty of the 2.5 set is that some pieces drop, and some can be bought on the ah. Honor points are hard to come by, and the s2.5 set is pretty darn good for heals.

I do recommend that you get some resilience gems. You can farm gold and try to make some lvl 3s, at least, or buy them in the nick shop. I wouldn't use honor points for the level 2 gems unless you are just that desperate.

Sisidsid 20 months ago

What is the name of the S2 gear & S2.5 gear for sin? I'm confused... Thanks

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TheDragonBringer 20 months ago Author

Sorry I didn't respond yesterday. I wanted to double check the answer to this one. The S2, or season 2, gear for rangers are called Merciless Combatant's Leather (boots, gloves, ect.) and Merciless Combatant's Tiger Skin (boots, gloves ect.). Sin is Leather, and Marksman (previously Archer) is Tiger Skin.

I am not a sin, so I asked around about Sin s 2.5. I was told that Sins use Shadow Fang. Hopefully one of my other readers and confirm this, or you can ask in game.

I get how confusing sin PVE gear is. It is easy for mages, just one set. It is not hard to tell the difference between healing gear and mili gear. Warrior is a sinch since tanks are the black sheep. But for Rangers, it can be difficult to understand which is which, and why.

Sisidsid 20 months ago

Thanks a lot! This really made it clearer. I rely heavily on your blogs and always point other players here for detailed info, I am currently grinding for my 2/6 S2 - 4/6 S2.5 gear.

Also, it seems that the marksman update hasn't arrived at IOS servers yet(?)..

just for sharing, my sister (also a sin) found a shadow fang shoulder gear inside a chest near the body of the mendel when she was doing the "missing mate" quest, i tried coming back to the area but had no luck...

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TheDragonBringer 20 months ago Author

Thank you so much! I truly appreciate that! I think knowledge makes the game more fun! Oh yes, I just spoke wish someone about this. It is hard to believe, but Android got the update first this time! OMG, does that mean we aren't the wicked stepchild anymore?

You know what, it is soooo interesting you said that. I was on a team with someone who found something similar. I had never seen it or even heard of that happening. It is rare, but I guess we should all be checking those chests. Maybe this time it won't be cheese!

Just so you know Android has the update, but there is still a quest line guy missing (for the dungeon) and the boss nian is not in just yet.

Sisidsid 20 months ago

Definitely more fun if you know stuff! Maybe because there's a lot more android players now that they decide to upgrade them first. My other sister is on android and she's the one that showed me the upgrade. Sadly we don't see each other ingame since the rest of us are on ios. (me, younger sister (sin), older brother).

We made a guild consisting of just 3 and they have made me their official go-to-guy since "I KNOW A LOT". I told them i get everything i know here and to visit this blog but they are just too lazy lol.

The younger sister is crazy about mounts so every time i play i have your site open in another tab for quick reference :D

Thanks again! and hope to see more topics from ya!

20 months ago

What does it mean to cap?

Sisidsid 20 months ago

To cap is when you have gained 1500 honor points in pvp, after that you will get a chest containing random stuff. After 1500 honor points you will not gain anymore honor points for the day.

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TheDragonBringer 20 months ago Author

Thanks, Sisidsid. I was swamped yesterday, S, sid explains it pretty well. Basically, you are allowed 1,500 honor points each day. Once you cap you can use tabs to reset the cap. You won't get a second chest, but you can still earn points. See my hub about PvP tabs for more on that.

You can click my profile to see more of my articles. 1,500 honor points can be saved for s3 and s2.5. But you can also trade it for arena points for s2. 1,500 honor points equals about 4,500 Arena points. You can see my hub about trading honor points for arena points for more about that.

Sidissid 20 months ago

Hi, can you also do a detailed guide with Season gears like the ones you did on Tier gears? I think it would be a big help for newbies that opt for PVP explaining all those gear mastery stuff and gear combinations :D Well only if your not busy haha. Thanks a lot!

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TheDragonBringer 20 months ago Author

I just finished a guide about cap and exhaustion, it should go live shortly. I can do a PVP Season gear guide, I have it lightly started already. I will work on that next. I may do like I did with the tiers and do a general guide, then a spesific guide about each season.

20 months ago

Once you hit the ranking requirement for a piece of equipment once, can you always buy it? If I have hit the level but don have honor points, should I play another arena till I do? So I don't go back under?

Jam 19 months ago

Hi, was wondering if you can explain 'rating'. I see a lot of players in global asking for '+1600 2/2 partner' or something like that, is the +1600 rating? I've been asked what my rating is. I don't know where to see my rating. Is it the level? I've asked players online but they don't answer or they completely disregard my question :(

Tang 18 months ago

Hi i just wanted to know the rating requirement for s3 rings necklace and armor as well, i only started getting my gear and now farming my rank i don't know which rank i should be to be able to buy s3

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TheDragonBringer 18 months ago Author

That is a great question, ill write a whole guide about it.

tang 17 months ago

oh and i was wondering what exactly is hit level? i seem to see in more in t3 but fail to understand players say its important but i don't know why sorry for the questions

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TheDragonBringer 17 months ago Author

Hit level is the accuracy of hits. An increased hit level increases base damage, and results in consistent harder hits. Be careful when combining crit and hit, there is a point of diminishing returns. At that point start adding haste.

Ma 17 months ago


After farming MZL and AGL til i was full t3 i started farming FML and VTL and FML drops epic for wars for head and chest found out that in order flame dungeons drops epic boots and gloves i think and just don't know which is better t3 or the ones in flame they also have bonus

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TheDragonBringer 17 months ago Author

Some of the fml, vtl and so on gear isn't bad, but t4 is out in the new dungeons. The first boss of bnl drops war shoulders, which isn't a bad place to start. Your also ready to make your t4 ring.

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Blake Easterbrook 17 months ago

new to pvp and fresh lvl 70. i am a mage. few questions.

1: should i build a hybrid spec so i can do both pvp and pve? or just build a pvp spec and focus on pvp until i get geared?

2: should i first get s2.5 or 2? mathematically 2.5 is cheaper and better, but i see 2 pieces of s2 give me a set bonus, so maybe i should get 2 s2 for the set bonus , 4 s2.5 then get my s3?

3: as a fresh lvl 70, should i farm dungeons first or do pvp? any tips would be appreciated

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TheDragonBringer 17 months ago Author

Hi Blake, welcome.

1 focus on pvp to get geared. Keep a reset scroll in your bag just in case. You don't have to buy books. I am experimenting with a pvp hybrid spec with my new mage.

2. I did full s2.5 on my mage, but if you have the patience to do 4,2 then do it.

3. Kind of depends, a little of both is good, but gear up in pvp primarily.

Liquidmojo 15 months ago

newbie question... Played wow for years... Just started oac.

Just hit 70 and want to start my pvp gear grind..... Where do I even enter a bg?? Do I need a team or is it open to individual players to que up?



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