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Fire Emblem: Awakening Child Units - Noire Info

Updated on April 14, 2016

Notable Quote

"TO THE ABYSS WITH YOU!" - Noire, on a critical hit/skill activation.

Source

Introduction

This hub is going to talk about Noire, Tharja's daughter and the second generation Archer of Fire Emblem: Awakening. If you're doing the Paralogue chapters in order, then Noire will be the second to last child unit that you recruit (the last one being Nah).

During the course of this hub, I will give my thoughts on details such as the best father for Noire and what skills Noire would most benefit from.

Overview

So, who is Noire?

Noire is the child of Tharja, a Dark Mage. Much like Tharja, she has a volatile personality, although Noire takes it to the next level with an amulet she wears around her neck. Said amulet was created by Tharja in the future to bring out Noire's dark side, as it were (although I debate how much of that effect is real and how much of it is placebo-like, since Noire has always appeared to have her personality. She shifts manically from calm and collected to uncontrollable and mad.

Where can I get Noire?

Noire is being hunted down by slavers in Paralogue 15. She automatically joins your army on the second turn of the chapter, whether or not (most likely not, in fact) you have gotten Tharja or Chrom near her to talk to her.

Why should I use Noire?

Well, she is one of the three female characters that have conditional requirements for Galeforce (which means Donnel, Gaius or Male My Unit need to be the father if you want Noire to eventually get Galeforce). In turn, this pigeon-holes Noire into a set-up where you either reduce her Magic growth for Galeforce (Donnel, Gaius) or you keep her Magic growth intact but tie up your male My Unit in a relationship with Tharja (it works, as you may expect, but I prefer to have Manakete Morgan).

Honestly, I didn't use Noire during my playthrough of Fire Emblem: Awakening. Her growths are pretty balanced though, and you can class change her into Dark Mage to wreak havoc with Dark Magic, much like her mother does.

Who's the best father for Noire?

As mentioned in the previous section, Noire has only conditional access to Galeforce, which means that, for Noire to get Galeforce, she really only has three potential parents. Given that Galeforce optimization seems to be one of the top criteria for Fire Emblem: Awakening players for their pairings, let's take a look at Donnel, Gaius, and Male My Unit:

  • Donnel - Can pass down Counter or Aptitude to Noire, and grants Pegasus Knight, Mercenary, and Troubadour when he is her father. I could make a case for Donnel dragging down Noire's Magic, but Gaius will do the same. However, the real kicker is that Donnel's growths are better for Nah or Kjelle.
  • Gaius - The perfect father for Noire, due to process of elimination. See, Kjelle has high Defense which makes her better as Donnel's child. Male My Unit is better as Nah's father since that also means Manakete Morgan. For the curious, Gaius can pass down Thief, Myrmidon and Pegasus Knight to Noire.
  • Male My Unit - Any child unit of My Unit is going to be a powerhouse, just by virtue of bonus class options. However, male MU is much better off just pairing up with Nowi for the double whammy of Galeforce Nah and Morgan.

Summary: Gaius would make a great pick to be Noire's father, but any of the three aforementioned parents could work well in a pinch.

Noire's Growths as an Archer Depending on the Father

Parent
HP
Str
Mag
Skl
Spd
Lck
Def
Res
Donnel
85
53
33
63
61
53
43
30
Gaius
85
53
33
65
61
38
40
30
Male My Unit
81
50
38
63
61
43
41
31
A table listing Noire's stat growths depending on her father. Male MU growths assume +Speed/-Luck. [Source: Serenes Forest]

Noire's Stat Caps Depending on the Father

Parent
HP
Str
Mag
Skl
Spd
Lck
Def
Res
Donnel [Archer]
60
28
23
28
26
31
28
21
Gaius [Archer]
60
28
23
31
29
26
26
22
Male My Unit [Archer]
60
26
23
31
31
27
27
22
Donnel [Sniper]
80
43
33
47
41
46
43
31
Gaius [Sniper]
80
43
33
50
44
41
41
32
Male My Unit [Sniper]
80
41
33
50
46
42
42
32
A table listing Noire's maximum possible stats as an Archer, and as a Sniper depending on her father. Male MU stat caps assume +Speed/-Luck. [Source: Serenes Forest]

Noire's Initial Base Stats

 
HP
Str
Mag
Skl
Spd
Lck
Def
Res
Noire's Initial Base Stats
8
5
3
4
7
10
4
6
Base stats for the Archer Class
16
5
0
8
6
0
5
0
Noire's initial base stats and the base stats for Archer, her default class. [Source: Serenes Forest]

The information in the above table plays into the following formula to determine Noire's true base stats for a specific given playthrough:

[(Mother's current stats - Mother's class base stats) + (Father's current stats - Father's class base stats) + Child's absolute base stats] / 3 + Child's class base stats

Note: Keep in mind that a child unit's base stats are generated when the Paralogue chapter is started. So, you'll want to train Tharja and her husband up (and place appropriate skills to pass on to Noire in the last active slot of each parent as well) before you enter Noire's chapter.

Should i use a Second Seal on Noire?

Oh yes, most definitely. You'll want Noire to become a Dark Flier eventually for Galeforce. However, whether you stay as a Dark Flier after you get Galeforce or class change to Sorcerer is up to you. Personally, I'd like to say that Dark Magic is awesome. You can't use Dark Magic with Dark Flier. Thus, your target end class for Noire should be Sorcerer.

What skills should I use on Noire?

Well, here's a small list of the best ones.

  • Galeforce - You'll have to take a long detour through Dark Flier to get it, but it'll be worth it in the end.
  • Vengeance - You can have Tharja pass this one down or just have Noire learn it naturally once she reaches Sorcerer 5.
  • Tomebreaker - Noire can learn this at Sorcerer 15, and it turns her into an anti-mage. Tome users will be hard pressed to push any damage or dodge anything when they have to eat a -50% Hit and Avoid penalty when fighting Noire.
  • Lifetaker - You have access to Dark Knight. You'd be remiss if you didn't get this skill at some point. Getting half of your maximum HP back when you kill an enemy unit on your turn is awesome.
  • Vantage - If Noire has a parent that grants Myrmidon (Gaius or Male MU), this is perhaps one of the best skills of the game. Then again, it's harder to stay in the sweet spot of half maximum HP or worse thanks to Nosferatu.
  • Prescience - This is a cool skill for going on the offensive against single enemies, but not so hot when you're surrounded, since it only works during your own turns.

Basically, the essential skill here is Galeforce. After that, you get to mix and match to your liking. Basically, Noire's growth rates allow her to take a diversity of possible character classes. As usual, Sorcerer comes highly recommended.

Noire's Possible Supports

Possible Husbands/Companions
Other Possible Supports
My Unit [Female], Owain, Inigo, Brady, Gerome, Morgan [Male], Yarne, Laurent
My Unit [Male], Tharja, [Male Parent], Severa, Morgan [Female]
A list of all possible supports for Noire. Noire can have one S Rank support with any of the male units in the Possible Husbands/Companions column. All other possible supports go up to A Rank. [Source: Serenes Forest]

Looking For Some General Information Related To The Child Units?

No need to fear, I am here for you! I wrote up a hub detailing many general things about the various child units in Fire Emblem: Awakening. To check it out, just click on any part of this sentence!

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Conclusion

In conclusion, Noire is the second generation Archer of Fire Emblem: Awakening and Tharja's daughter. Her peculiar growth rates allow her to be a great Sniper or a great Sorcerer. However, one of the classes is merely good and the other is borderline broken (which is which should be fairly obvious). I personally did not use Noire during my playthrough, but she offers a fair deal of versatility should you choose to add her to your army.

Feel free to talk about Noire and things related to her in the comments section. Also, don't hesitate to ask questions if something in this hub is unclear!

Until the next time, take care and have fun! ;)

-Winterfate

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      PirateYoga 3 years ago

      Hey winterfate, does this hub mark the end of the Fire Emblem Awakening Hubs? If so, thanks for all the hard work on them, and best of luck in any other hubs you decide to write up- I'm sure they'll be just as useful or interesting as these :)

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      Darrin Perez 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      Hello there PirateYoga! The answer to your question is yes. I might publish one or two more hubs down the line related to Fire Emblem: Awakening but, for the most part, I'm done with hubs for this game. I thank you very much for reading. :)

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      BlooStrawberryz12 3 years ago

      Hi winterfate, your guides and advice are beyond awesome for this game!!! I've read every single guide that you posted on this and it really helped me to understand the epic franchise even better although it's my first fire emblem game. I just have one question for you; are you ever going to do guides on the spotpass characters? Gangrel, Walhart, Emmeryn, Yen fay, Aversa, and Priam? If so, it'd be quite awesome as I would like to know if they are good or not for recruitment. If not, it's all good as I'm already satisfied on how much effort and work you put into these awesome guides. Hope you make more epic guides and great advice on other games!!! :D

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      Elialeh, Tactician of Lycia 3 years ago

      "The experiences are so innumerable and varied, that the journey appears to be interminable and the Destination is ever out of sight. But the wonder of it is, when at last you reach your Destination you find that you had never travelled at all! It was a journey from here to Here." -- Meher Baba

      It has been a wonderful journey with these Fire Emblem Hubs, my dear Winterfate. With luck,--no. There shall be more, as time goes on, I'm sure. I thank you for all you've done so far, and the laughs, the "OH NO WHY THE HELL DID HE SAY THAT" moments, the dedication, and the poise you've shown with your eloquence in expressing what has (if only to me) great sentimental value.

      So thank you!

      "I wish you a very good journey to an unknown you've never seen."

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      "Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home."

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      ~Elialeh, Tactician of Lycia

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      Darrin Perez 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      Thank you very much Elialeh! :)

      Glad you enjoyed my hubs! :D

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      Flamegear 3 years ago

      Hey Winter. Gotta start out by saying in general these have been quite useful for picking up a few ideas, so thanks a lot for doing them.

      I'm up to Ch 15 or so on a "blind run" (my first) and have paired my units according to story. I paired (Assassin) Lon'qu & (Sorcerer) Tharja fairly early on and now find myself with a Noire that has Lethality & Tomebreaker, and high Skill/Spd/Str.

      This seems to be working quite well, but it is early days. I would have liked to check her potential stat growths using your guide (which I have done for a few of the children), but the guide only seems to focus on a Magic-focused Noire.

      I understand & appreciate that you can only cover so many father-combos, and I think 3 is a great number to go with. But for my 3 cents I thought it might have been good if you had been able to cover an alternative role/path for some of the children, if possible.

      Anyway, just my 3 cents worth. Love the guides & will definitely continue to use them for reference as I get stuck into exploring alternate playthroughs. :)

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      Javier 3 years ago

      Hey winterfate, I'm so glad I found your hubs because they are so extremely helpful! Your Fire Emblem ones especially (but not only those) have been awesomely amazing and I hope you keep up the great work! I'm definitely going to follow your hubs for awhile. ^_^ (again great work!)

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      Darrin Perez 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      Hey there Javier! Thank you very much for reading! :D

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      Twan 3 years ago

      If you look past getting galerorce, what would be a good parent for noire? (galeforce is meh vs spotpass teams and useless un double duel). I looked at henry and then noire gets a little better stats than tharja as sorceror with most notably 3 more mag.

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      Darrin Perez 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      I think that sounds about right. Henry should be a great parent for Noire. Basically, any male parent that benefits her ability to use tomes (Ricken could probably also work as a male parent in such a case).

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      Anon 3 years ago

      I did Henry with Tharja and Noire's skill stats were insane. I'm thinking of going with Gaius as father for my second play through. With Noire right now I got her to level cap Sniper and then Second Sealed to Assassin for lethality. As it is, she activates vengeance 100% of the time which is pretty awesome.

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      Sergio 3 years ago

      I ended up keeping her as Archer, then Bow Knight, then Assassin...

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      Brandon Waight 3 years ago from Galesburg, Illinois

      While dark magic is indeed awesome, I personally have chosen to limit the number of Sorcerers I have to only 3 for the whole game (Tharja, Henry, and Laurent [fathered by Ricken]). As such, I chose to take Noire down other paths.

      I must say, Noire makes a fantastic Bride if you own the right DLC. With Armsthrift and All Stats +2 (which is ultimately traded for Limit Breaker), she only needs 38 luck before she can run rampant with an infinite Nidhogg. Combined with Bowfaire, Lifetaker, and Galeforce, she makes for a powerful unit in that regard.

      Nonetheless, reading these hubs has helped me tremendously in learning how to optimize. I mostly follow your advice with parents, and then see what I can do by imposing my own limits. It really has added to my enjoyment of the game (and makes Lunatic mode fun to work with)

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      Jitu 3 years ago

      hehe that doesn't surprise me. Fire Emblem is a game most pploee aren't really aware of or haven't played (or just not think of) unless they already know about it.When I played the Wii and DS versions, I did like the story and characters. It was just the perma death aspect that killed it for me (LOL perma death of playing a game?)

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      Emily 2 years ago

      I actually ran a Gregor!Noire set with Gregor passing down Armsthrift and Tharja passing down Lifetaker, then gave Noire Sol, Tomebreaker and Vengeance.

      Let's just say it murdered everything, no Galeforce required. But now I want to use a Gaius!Noire set.

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      Layni17 2 years ago from Mechanicville, New York

      You know, its weird. I paired Tharja with Kellam 'cause I basically had no one else, and Noire's a BEAST.

      Seriously one of my favorite kids. Try it-She's a great assassin.

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