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Fire Emblem: Awakening Child Units - Owain Info

Updated on April 14, 2016

Notable Quote

"Hand...hungers..." - Owain, on a critical hit/skill activation.

Source

Introduction

This hub is going to talk about Owain, the second generation Myrmidon in Fire Emblem: Awakening who also happens to be Lissa's son. If you play the Paralogue chapters in order, then Owain will be the first child unit you recruit after Lucina, which makes sense as they are first cousins (but you can't use Lucina to recruit Owain; wrap your head around that one).

During the course of this hub, I will give my thoughts on details such as the best father for Owain and what skills Owain would most benefit from.

Overview

So, who is Owain?

Owain is Lissa's son and, according to several hints the design team seems to have thrown in (mainly his manner of attire and his starting class), Lon'qu seems to be his canon father. Which, if you've seen even Lissa and Lon'qu's C Rank support conversation, would make a fair amount of sense. Owain is a "love him or hate him" type of character in the Fire Emblem: Awakening community, due to the fact that he has an odd personality. His fighting style is extremely flashy and will likely remind you of fighters in Japanese animes who tend to cry out their attacks before they use them. In addition, he tends to exaggerate a lot and complain that he can't keep his sword-arm in check. His antics are amusing to some people (myself included), but annoy others (others including characters within the game and players outside of the game as well).

Where can I get Owain?

Owain can be found in Paralogue 5, near the rest of your army. He can be recruited by either Chrom or Lissa.

Why should I use Owain?

He's amusing! No?
Well, for a more serious reason, he's another Myrmidon with comparable stats to Lon'qu. The real issue is that his growths are mostly inferior to Lon'qu for most possible male parents (I totally blame Lissa's magic-oriented stat growths). However, be that as it may, you can train Lon'qu and Lissa before you recruit Owain, which will boost Owain's base stats and make him more resistant to the vile random number generator (by reducing the amount of good levels Owain needs to cap his stats). Also, Lissa can pass down Galeforce to Owain. That in itself is enough to make Owain your go-to Myrmidon once Lissa gets married with your male parent of choice.

Who's the best father for Owain?

This is a heavy question. Lissa is a member of the first generation parents group, which means that she has a large list of possible husbands. So, below I'll list all of the potential parents (sans My Unit) and whether or not they would work as a parent for Owain. Also, before I actually list the male parents, it's fair to note that Lissa's Troubadour class is passed on to Owain as Barbarian (due to gender restrictions) and Lissa's Pegasus Knight becomes null (it becomes Myrmidon, but Owain already has Myrmidon, so it's pointless), so Owain has a decent amount of class choices regardless of his actual male parent.

Units whose names are bolded are recommended for reasons listed in their bullet, and will be represented in the table in the next section listing Owain's growths as based on potential fathers.

  • Lon'qu - Because canon. Actually, from a purely objective point of view, Lon'qu doesn't bring a lot to the table besides Wyvern Rider and Thief. However, Owain is working from an inherent penalty in Lissa's growths which are decidely sub-optimal for his base class, so you should take what you can get. Lon'qu's low Defense growths mean that you want him as a parent to someone who is going to use a class with low Defense (due to the formula for determining a child unit's true stat growths). Both Mage and Myrmidon on Owain fit that description perfectly.
  • Frederick - Hah! No! Actually, this is the perfect time to fess up about Frederick: I'm never going to recommend him as a parent (except possibly Frederick x Sumia, if you don't do Chrom x Sumia) since he takes too much additional effort to get up to speed compared to your other units. While he's not particularly bad as a parent, it also implies bringing him into chapters to build up the relevant support relationship, and that's time you're stealing from other units with more short-term growth possibilities.
  • Virion - Trade the Thief bonus class on Owain for Archer, grant a few more Skill growth points and lower some other stats by just a tad, and you have Virion instead of Lon'qu as the male parent. Considering that you're bringing the womanizing noble along on most of your chapters thanks to his class, he would be a good choice for a parent for Owain.
  • Stahl - He gives Owain beautiful Defense growths (for a Myrmidon anyway) along with an almost ridiculous amount of bonus classes to access. Perhaps one of the best parents for Owain, since the major downside of lower Speed growth is countered by the aforementioned benefits.
  • Vaike - No, actually. Now, you may be surprised, because a cursory look at the growth rates for Owain over at Serenes Forest will quickly tell you that Vaike's growths actually do slightly more for Owain than Stahl's growths. However, Vaike has Barbarian as a class he can pass down to his children, and Owain gets Barbarian via Lissa's exchange of Troubadour upon class inheritance. Thus, you'll actually want to use Vaike to pass down Barbarian to another male child unit (his Barbarian class becomes Mercenary if passed down to a female child).
  • Kellam - Kellam's godlike Defense growths will combine with Lissa's humble Defense growths to make an Owain that can't break 40% Defense growth (he has 38% Defense growth if Kellam is his father, for the curious). Please, don't do that. Kellam is best served pairing up with a female parent that will have a child that already has high base Defense growths (such as Sully's child, Kjelle).
  • Ricken, Libra, Henry - Let's get these three out of the way in one bullet. They're magic-users with a decidedly Magic-heavy growth composition. I'm a fan of trying to keep the child units in their base class (or at least, have them in their initial class once I'm done grinding skills), and having two magic-based parents for Owain basically cries out Dark Knight (because you get to use Swords, so you can still utilize Owain's Strength). Henry is a particularly poor choice because he'll pass Dark Mage to Owain, and you want Owain to be using his Strength in some way, not focusing on a stat for which his initial base stat growths are hardly optimal. Going heavy Magic growth forces Owain into a deranged hybrid build, and you'd want Ignis if you're dead-set on such a thing (and so help you Naga if you're actually trying to optimize your child units and pair up your male My Unit with Lissa, because that pairing is anything but optimal).
  • Gaius - Can pass Pegasus Knight to female child units. The usefulness of this ability cannot be understated, so you don't want Gaius to be Owain's father. It's a hilariously inefficient idea and Gaius is best left for another child such as Nah, who happens to be a female without Pegasus Knight under normal circumstances.
  • Donnel - See above. Additionally, I'm part of the group of people who loves to pair Donnel up with Nowi, just to make the child even more broken (he grants Pegasus Knight on class inheritance to females, much like Gaius). Even if you don't do that, you'll at least want to engineer a situation where his Pegasus Knight class inheritance can be put to good use. Being Owain's father isn't such a situation.
  • Gregor - He can pass down Barbarian, which Owain will have by default. Additionally, his growths are better applied to another child unit.

Summary: The best parents for Owain, based on the criteria of average stat growths and classes they can pass down are Lon'qu, Virion and Stahl.

Owain's Growths as a Myrmidon Depending on the Father

Parent
HP
Str
Mag
Skl
Spd
Lck
Def
Res
Virion
78
55
31
63
63
51
28
35
Lon'qu
80
53
28
66
65
56
28
33
Stahl
83
56
25
61
58
55
36
30
A table listing Owain's stat growths depending on his father. [Source: Serenes Forest]

Owain's Stat Caps Depending on the Father

Parent
HP
Str
Mag
Skl
Spd
Lck
Def
Res
Lon'qu [Myrmidon]
60
23
25
30
32
33
20
24
Virion [Myrmidon]
60
23
25
29
31
32
20
26
Stahl [Myrmidon]
60
25
24
28
29
31
24
25
Lon'qu [Swordmaster]
80
37
37
47
50
48
31
38
Virion [Swordmaster]
80
37
37
46
49
47
31
40
Stahl [Swordmaster]
80
39
36
45
47
46
35
39
A table listing Owain's maximum stat caps as a Myrmidon and as a Swordmaster depending on his father. [Source: Serenes Forest]

Owain's Initial Base Stats

 
HP
Str
Mag
Skl
Spd
Lck
Def
Res
Owain's Initial Base Stats
10
4
4
5
6
9
6
5
Base stats for the Myrmidon class
16
4
1
9
10
0
4
1
Owain's initial base stats and the base stats for Myrmidon, his default class. [Source: Serenes Forest]

The information in the above table plays into the following formula to determine Owain's true base stats for a specific given playthrough:

[(Mother's current stats - Mother's class base stats) + (Father's current stats - Father's class base stats) + Child's absolute base stats] / 3 + Child's class base stats

Note: Keep in mind that a child unit's base stats are generated when the Paralogue chapter is started. So, you'll want to train Lissa and her husband up (and place appropriate skills to pass on to Owain in the last active slot of each parent as well) before you enter Owain's chapter.

Should I use a Second Seal on Owain?

Well, Owain would definitely benefit from getting Wrath from Berserker. I would personally class change him back to Swordmaster after getting Wrath, but your mileage may vary (Berserkers hit harder, but axes are less accurate than swords, and Berserkers have a much lower Skill cap as compared to Swordmasters). Combined with Vantage from Myrmidon, this makes Owain an awesome clutch fighter when he's against the ropes. Just be aware that such a build is risky by default, and be prepared to reload a lot when the random number generator doesn't swing your way.

What skills should I use on Owain?

Well, Galeforce is a given, especially since he has access to it via Lissa. Besides that, you can get Vantage and Astra just by having Owain stay as a Myrmidon and promote to Swordmaster. For your fourth skill, you might consider getting Lifetaker from Dark Knight. I'll leave the fifth skill as an exercise to the reader since there are a myriad of skills that could do well in that last spot, but are not as essential as the ones mentioned prior.

Owain's Possible Supports

Possible Wives/Companions
Other Possible Supports
My Unit [Female], Lucina, Kjelle, Cynthia, Severa, Morgan [Female], Noire, Nah
Lissa, [Male Parent], My Unit [Male], Inigo, Brady, Morgan [Male]
A list of all possible supports for Owain. Owain can have one S Rank support with any of the female units in the Possible Wives/Companions column. All other possible supports go up to A Rank. [Source: Serenes Forest]

Looking For Some General Information Related To The Child Units?

No need to fear, I am here for you! I wrote up a hub detailing many general things about the various child units in Fire Emblem: Awakening. To check it out, just click on any part of this sentence!

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Conclusion

In conclusion, Owain is the second generation Myrmidon of Fire Emblem: Awakening as well as Lissa's son. His growths are somewhat hampered by the fact that Lissa relies on her Magic and Owain is meant to rely on his Strength, but he can still surpass Lon'qu given a fair amount of effort in training Lissa and her husband and making sure that you pass on Galeforce to Owain as well.

Feel free to talk about Owain and things related to him in the comments section. Also, don't hesitate to ask questions if something in this hub is unclear!

Until the next time, take care and have fun! ;)

-Winterfate

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      guy 3 years ago

      I feel like I should point out that Donnel-fathered Owain has a maximum Luck stat of 52, as well as access to the Mercenary class and the Armsthrift Skill. Should Donnel-fathered Owain max his Luck stat and have Armsthrift, his weapons would never break; Armsthrift's trigger rate is Luck *2, and 52 * 2 is greater than 100. While Gaius could still give Pegasus Knight to a daughter in need, no other father can give both 50+ Luck and Mercenary to Owain.

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      Darrin Perez 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      Hello there guy! That is a very interesting analysis on Owain. I hadn't noticed that.

      However, there's also the counterpoint of the fact that Fire Emblem: Awakening rewards Pair Ups (perhaps too much, one could argue), so you usually want to keep Owain paired up with another unit. This means that you may not need to even reach 50 base Luck with Owain in order to have 50 effective Luck, as certain Pair Ups can boost Luck.

      Thank you for your comment guy! :)

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      Brian Gearson 3 years ago

      Lissa + MU gives you an Owain that has high magic and ignis. It has worked out pretty well for me.

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      Darrin Perez 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      Hehe, I did that too in my playthrough. It's not very optimal, but I tend not to worry about such things, especially during my first time through any game.

      Thanks for the comment Brian! :)

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      Erdrick 3 years ago

      I think something worth mentioning with Henry.

      Henry in his Barabarian Class actually has a 60% Strength Growth, and his Modifiers actually give +1 Strength, the hits being to his Luck and Resistance.

      My point being, Henry actually makes a decent mixed parent, if you're willing to raise him in his other classes for better base stats. This also enables you to give Owain Thief and Dark Mage.

      If Noire can work as a Sorcerer, I don't see why Owain couldn't. You could even try out the Dread Fighter class (If you got the DLC).

      Which reminds me, are you going to have Hubs for the Spotpass Paralogue characters?

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      Darrin Perez 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      Hello Erdrick! On the grounds that the Paralogue characters can't support (except with MU) and they're mostly not notable (with the exception of Walhart and Aversa): Probably not.

      Walhart can pass Conquest to a male Morgan and Aversa can pass Shadowgift to a female Morgan. Besides that, there's no reason to pick a Spotpass Paralogue character over a regular character (besides the novelty I suppose).

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      Erdrick 3 years ago

      I can see how the lack of supports would be a turn off, though I think noting the Spotpass characters might be nice, if only in Morgan's Parent section.

      Noting Shadowgift in particular would be pretty cool, since it lets Morgan use Dark Tomes in ANY class. She could go with Sage or Valkyrie for both a bit more magic and Staff usage, or use it in Grandmaster to get the most out of Ignis.

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      Andrew 3 years ago

      Am I the only one that finds it strange that he can marry Lucina?

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      Darrin Perez 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      The societal rules for such things are a tad more relaxed in Japan than in most of the rest of the world, or so I read in a forum where somebody brought up the same question. :o

      You know, this is a game set roughly in the same type of setting as the Middle Ages of Europe in our world, so I don't find that too strange (that sort of thing happened more than most would admit to, especially amongst royalty).

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      Kyle Andersen 3 years ago

      Hey Erdrick! "If Owain obtains an S-Support with Lucina, Cynthia or Kjelle (the latter two if Chrom marries Sumia or Sully), their status screens will refer to each other as "Companion", instead of "Husband" or "Wife", like in the japanese version. The reason for this was probably to remove the implications of an incestuous relationship between cousins." -Fire Emblem Wiki I am glad that they caught that before releasing it worldwide.

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      sdw4527 3 years ago

      Skills are way greater than Stats imo. And Owain's meant to be a magic-user more than a physical one. So in that case, Ricken/Lissa is total beast pairing.

      Dual Guard+

      Luna

      Galeforce

      Aggressor

      Limit Breaker

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      Owen Zanto 3 years ago

      You seem to downgrade the viability of a Ricken fathered Owain, but the magic cap of said Owain is a huge 51 as a sage, which is one of the highest in the game! Not only that, but let's say you make Owain a Dread Fighter, which is probably his best class.

      Lon'Qu guarantees that both Magic and Strength will reach a pretty mediocre 41 each. Ricken guarantees a mediocre 40 for strength (actually very good considering the 2 magical parents) and a solid 43 for magic, which means that Ricken guarantees a that as a Dread fighter, Owain will be able to have one attacking stat to work with, Lon'Qu negates the chance of having any sort of decent attack stat.

      So yeah. Sorceror Nosferatu Tanking Owain is my personal favorite.

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      FE11 3 years ago

      Thx for the advice, and I will be swinging by swordmaster for astra, but I prefer Assassin or Dread Fighter to give him a viable long-range option. Honestly, I hate second-tier classes that restrict you to one weapon type, and the levin sword sucks.

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      FE11 3 years ago

      Also, I kind of felt sorry for Owain because he never got the true Myssletain. Since you get it through spotpass, I find it fitting to give it to him.

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      Fyi 3 years ago

      It's only been the in the last 150 years that Puritanical misconceptions have spread the misconception that marrying your first cousin is incestuous. There are actually enough genetic differences that there is no real reasoning against marrying a cousin except the current Western culture taboo. I actually did research on this simply because of the Lucina/Owain relationship. Fascinating stuff!

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      Shippo 3 years ago

      If your Avatar is male and Owain is your favorite child unit then you might as well just have your Avatar marry Lissa.

      The Ignis skill that the Grandmaster class bestows is so perfect for Owain since, when activated, halves either Str or Mag and temporarily lends that halved number to the stat that is needed depending on the weapon being used at the time of it's activation.

      Have Owain inherit Ignis from Daddy and Galeforce from Mommy and with Vantage, Lifetaker/Renewal, and Miracle/Armsthrift/Counter you have yourself an incredible Dark Knight.

      If you loved the game enough to purchase DLC content you can have Owain be a Dread Fighter—a class that uses Swords, Axes, and Tomes—and if you can aquire it, the Limit Breaker Skill from Rogues & Redeemers 3 to extend the cap on all his stats by 10 points.

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      Sean 2 years ago

      Not recommending Ricken for a kid who relies on Astra and Lethality for damaging Skills and has a +2 Mag mod by default?

      lolno

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      An actually smart FEA player 2 years ago

      Ricken is without a doubt the best father for Owain. And what the heck do you mean having another parent with high magic puts him in a "deranged hybrid" build? Yeah, that would have been a problem, you know, if Owain ACTUALLY HAD SOME STRENGTH! Lissa gives Owain a -2 strength modifier, so going physical if a very, very bad idea. And Lon'qu isn't a "canon" pairing. There are no canon pairings in the entire game! And dude, you focus way too much on growths. Growths are really only important for people who have no idea what grinding is ( and if you don't, then stop playing this game right now). Lon'qu is a terrible father for Owain and is much better used for Brady or Severa. And the saddest part is that I actually fell for that and did the Lon'qu!Owain pairing because I thought you were a FEA expert, but after learning and getting better at the game, I realize you are too narrow-minded and only care about growths and mods over the other parts of a strong child character.

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      Anon Mouse 2 years ago

      ^"An Actually Smart FEA Player".

      First question: why are you reading these if you don't need the help? Second question: why do you feel the need to belittle this kind sir for putting the time and effort into writing these?

      Feel free to express your opinion. It is your right. But just a heads up, bashing the author makes you much less credible. Just sayin.

      Keep up the good work Winterfate. I've read each of these multiple times and get something new each time. Know that most of us really appreciate what you do!

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      Sammycat 2 years ago

      I'm actually using Owain (Lon'qu) as a Trickster. His healing isn't super huge but it's decent and his fairly hard to hit. Maybe not the best class for him but it's definitely worth trying out.

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      erf 18 months ago

      Keep in mind Owain is a Dark Mage In Fire Emblem Fates. So Henry is likely his Canon Father

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      Bfba 17 months ago

      You forgot to add Ricken as the father.

      Ricken Owain as a Dark knight is powerful with Forged Levi Swords

      Owain has powerful magic potential

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